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NFDA has launched A Brush With Death, a podcast to help funeral professionals be more responsive to the evolving needs of families and better respond to the issues shaping their businesses. New episodes are released on the second Tuesday of each month. Listen below or subscribe to A Brush with Death from your favorite podcast app.

How the Sausage is Made

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  • by National Funeral Directors Association|
  • February 13, 2024 |
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The National Board Exam is a hot topic of discussion amongst funeral directors.  As workforce needs grow across the country and the education system works to teach the future of the profession, many questions about the exam and it purpose continue to be asked.

To understand more about the National Board Exam, host, Gabe Schauf, sits down with Dalene Paull and Leili McMurrough.  Dalene and Leili share a behind the scenes explanation as to how the exam is developed, its importance, and how funeral directors can play vital roles in supporting the process and the students who are working to become licensed.


Click here for more information about the National Board Exam, including guides and statistics.


About Dalene: Dalene Paull is Executive Director of The International Conference of Funeral Service Examining Boards, Inc. She is a two-time graduate of the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville with a bachelor’s degree in criminal justice and a master’s degree in public administration. She began her career with The Conference in 1998 as a registrar and a year later, began serving as Assistant Executive Director. She was named Executive Director in 2002.  Dalene has served as a board member for the Federation of Associations of Regulatory Boards since 2008 and was president from 2021-2023.

About Leili:  Leili McMurrough is a licensed funeral director and embalmer and a licensed attorney. Leili received her B.A. from Lehigh University, her J.D. from Syracuse University College of Law and her Associate degree from Simmons Institute of Funeral Service. Leili is the President at Worsham College and works at McMurrough Funeral Chapel in Libertyville, Illinois. She is also the Chair of the American Board of Funeral Service Education Committee on Accreditation.

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